Cascade Dishwasher Detergent – What You Need To Know

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Cascade Dishwasher Detergent – What You Need To Know

By Dan Tardio

are about more than just the dishwasher. It’s about the detergent too! And with so many on the market we decided to tell you about our favorite – Cascade Dishwasher Detergent – here’s what you need to know.

Cascade two in one has been a real hit and I think it goes beyond the great job it does. When you open the package you see these wonderful little bright blue and spring green bubble. They are rather refreshing on their own.

The tablets are rather intriguing to look at. The plastic casing will dissolve with the water and inside the pouch is and Cascade dishwashing powder. That’s it. And just in case you might forget whose product you have in bold red letters on the bottom you’ll discover the word Cascade.

There are actually two varieties that you can choose from. The Original blue Dawn or the new Citrus Breeze scented orange Dawn. What will you do with two choices?

Now I love Dawn as a so the logical deduction would be that I would like the Cascade dishwasher version. And of course I was right.

The packaging that holds the pouches is easy to open. Use your scissors, cut the top, and then it reseals with a zip lock style top. In fact Cascade has gone as far as including a diagram of a pair of scissors at the top. The reseal holds well and since the pouches are water soluble that’s important!

It’s a good idea to make sure your hands are dry before grabbing the pouches since they could become squishy and start to dissolve in your hands.

They are a breeze to use. No unwrapping, no pouring, no puncturing. Just take the pouch out of the bag, pop it into the dishwasher’s soap dispenser, close the door and start the dishwasher. That’s it – how simple is that? No fuss no muss!

Both of the scents that are available are nice but if you don’t like fragrance or are sensitive to it stick with the original blue. No matter which you choose the strong smell of the dishwasher soap can still be smelled.

Now let’s talk about performance. On a scale of 1 to 10 I’d give this product a 10. It works well, cuts grease, no streaks, no spots, and no fogging. The Action Pac works great! There’s no reason to rinse the dishes. It cuts through grease without hesitation. And it’s easy and convenient to use.

As with any of these cleaners it comes with a warning not to get it on you skin or in your eyes and to keep it away from children. It also lists the first aid treatments clearly on the packaging.

You can buy a pack of 20 pouches for around $4.00 so that works out to about 20 cents a cleaning. Shop on line and you can even save more. I think It’s a great buy and with all that cleaning power how can you go wrong?

Dan is a part-time appliances repairman and with his dishwasher website at http://www.alldishwashers.com, he gives reviews of both commercial and residential models and states common problems that he encounters with each one, with solutions! To learn more visit the dishwasher reviews website.

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MARILYN July 23, 2010 at 11:02 pm

PLEASE! After spending numerous days of rewashing cycles of dishes, 3 different types of detergent, inc. Cascade, and a repair bill of over $150.00 to the dishwasher repairman & $65.00 to the plumber, plus ruined glassware beyond repair…I am furious!!!!!!!!! It’s awful! Let’s find the fix before we sell a new product people …it’s wasted money for all of us consumers!

Dave G August 3, 2010 at 10:43 pm

What a Joke.
The reviewer clearly has never used the new Cascade with Dawn in a actual dishwasher. This stuff might as well be grey paint with grit. That is what your dishes get when your washer is finished. Need more proof? go to Cascade’s own website and read the reviews. Pretty sad!
Thanks Mr Dan Tardio, aka Cascade PR Rep. Soon to be Damage control Rep.

thomas becker August 6, 2010 at 6:06 pm

This detergent RUINED my dishwasher. I still can’t get the funky, goppy, deposits that it left all over my dishes and my dishwasher. Will cascade cover the cost of a new dishwasher?

JimmyJ August 20, 2010 at 9:58 pm

Did you actually use the product Dan, or do you just pencil-whip your reviews? I used the powder, and it’s horrible. Heavy white film on dishes, especially plactics, and discolored aluminum. P&G changed the formulation and blew it as bad as a company can. Cascade with Dawn is a technical disaster.

Jeanne August 26, 2010 at 2:50 pm

Cascade with dawn has ruined my black plastic utensils and it doesn’t even clean!Leaves a white cloudy film.

Judy September 1, 2010 at 8:12 pm

LOVE the pouches! Even if i have to say so myself! Will never use anything else!

Karen September 5, 2010 at 2:50 pm

I am sure glad I found these complaints, because all of a sudden my dishes came out of the dishwasher completely covered in a whitish film. At first I thought it was residue of the detergent and that our dishwasher rinse cycle may have been broken, but the stuff would not come off! We were considering whether to call an appliance man or our Culligan man, to check our water softener when I came upon these complaints about Cascade. Apparently it’s a new formula, and I had just opened the new box when all this happened! I had been using Cascade for as along as there have been dishwashers so I didn’t suspect that at all! Now I have gone out and purchased a different detergent, rinsed my filmy stuff in CLR, and am running an empty load with that stuff in it. I hope they realize something has gone terribly wrong!

southgeorgia September 6, 2010 at 4:01 pm

Dan, How much did Cascade pay you for your review? This product is absolutely awful. My glasses look etched, my AllClad pots have a whitish film on the outside and inside plus the rim is discolored, my coffee mugs have a residue buildup that is staining with the coffee, therefore making them completely unuseable. If a solution is not found soon,I guess we have go to back to hand washing, which means the dishwasher detergent manufacturers and dishwasher manufacturers will lose a lot of revenue.

June Bruker September 19, 2010 at 1:13 pm

I have a new Maytag dishwasher and am having trouble with the new Cascade (non phosphate). The dishes are coming out of the dishwasher with terrib le cloudyness and don’t know why all of a sudden this has occured…..does anyone know what I am talking about?

michael September 23, 2010 at 9:20 am

@MARILYN
There is a product on the market call Lemi-Shine which is designed to remove the hardwater effects of your water during the dishwashing cycle. You want to get rid of your filmy look give it a try. The Rinse agent also continues to remove the hard water effects during the rinse cycle, as fresh water is brought into the machine at that time.

Jean September 25, 2010 at 8:57 am

My drinking glasses are so cloudy that I’m ashamed to put them on the table….the silverware has a dirty look and feel and pots and pans are gritty. According to the Cascade website their formula has been changed and phosphate is no longer added due to environmental concerns. Unfortunately this is the case with ALL dishwashing detergents.

So now we’re supposed to purchase an additional Rinse Agent to help clean the dishes or “wash them yourself”….if I wanted to wash dishes by hand, I wouldn’t have bought a dishwasher. Anyone know of a product that will clean and make my glasses, dishes and silverware sparkle again?

Donna September 30, 2010 at 2:22 pm

@June Bruker
Yes! Same thing is happening to my glasses and black plastic ware. I definitely not going to buy Cascade again.

Laird Wilcox October 3, 2010 at 3:41 am

I do most of the dishwashing in my household and have been wondering what was wrong with the dishwasher until I learned of the formula change for Cascade. It’s horrible. The dishes come out looking worse than when I put them in the dishwasher. What is needed here is a massive public protest against this terribly intrusive product change. The extra environmental and energy cost in widespread pre-washing just to get dishes looking decent more than offsets any “harm” done by phosphates. Moreover, dishes and items that have to be sanitary for medical (infection preventing) reasons are made more dangerous by bacteria-grabbing residue of any kind. This regulation has to be reversed.

Mhudick October 3, 2010 at 12:21 pm

My Kitchenaid, after using Cascade for maybe 3 years, is covered with a baked on white crust that is not soluble in vinegar or lime juice, boiling or cold, nor with hot water. Except for scrubbing the stuff off, I cannot find an acceptable solution. Because it is not soluble in organic acids, it can’t be calcium carbonate. But then, if not, it must be some kind of carrier put in by P & G. Short of a chemical analysis by a chemist, does anyone have a clue as to a solution?

Victoria Martin October 3, 2010 at 5:53 pm

Agree with the above.. Tried the new Cascade and had the same horrible results! Never before have I had such trouble with the cloudy finish that will NOT wash off before. Just came back from buying a new set of dishes and glassware. This is absolutely terrible. Thougt I was getting a great deal from Costco for the new IMPROVED larger size of Cascade; this deal cost me money. BEWARE!!!

Mandy White October 4, 2010 at 12:50 pm

Ditto to all the above! I had no idea that Cascade had changed until I started resaerching. My “clean” dishes come out all gritty and covered in white film. My dishwasher is also coated in this stuff. My Black untensils are turning white. I’ve used Cascade for years and loved it. It’s a shame they ruined it. Needless to say I’m searching for a new product!

Sandy MEYERS October 6, 2010 at 7:17 pm

I spent over $7.00 on a large box of Cascade Complete, everything that
is listed in above comments is true. My black untensils are ruined,
as well as stainless flatware. At first I was dumfounded. Then I washed
and rewashed, used vinegar and even wiped them by hand. I want my
money back and more. We should have a class action lawsuit. It cannot
be healthy eating off these dishes.

Sandy MEYERS October 6, 2010 at 7:41 pm

addition to the above, anyone know where to make a complaint.

Nancy October 8, 2010 at 11:21 pm

I can relate to many of these comments. My dishwasher was only 1 yr. old when it started leaving a white residue on all my glassware, cookware, plastics. I tried EVERYTHING….an additive that was supposed to make glassware shine, turned the water heater up, washed loads 2 & 3 times, handwashed glasses before I put them in the dishwasher. Went out an purchased new glasses thinking it was the glass. NOTHING worked. Now I hear that it is the Cascade!!!!! I just dropped over $900.00 on a new LG Dishwasher as a last resort. Guess what…..same crap…but now I know why. Am I furious?? Proctor & Gamble….you bet your ass I am and with that in mind I will do my best to not purchase ANY products made by your company. I’m just one consumer but I bet when this gets out if all would jump on board maybe, just maybe Proctor & Gamble will feel it!!

Phillips October 9, 2010 at 7:49 pm

Time for a law suit against the company! I am currently waiting on the dishwasher repair man and have had to buy new glasses and can no longer put most items in the dishwasher. I am using 2-3 times as much water hand washing my dishes. My plastic ware is all ruined white and powdery! My Bosch dishwasher may be ruined! How many unhappy people will it take! I went to the web site looking for answers and all I see are complaints about the powder product with Dawn! href=”#comment-177″>@MARILYN

Phillips October 9, 2010 at 7:53 pm

I also want to mention you can not comment on the Cascade web site with out agreeing to not contest them!

Phillips October 9, 2010 at 8:31 pm

I also want to say that I have been loyal to Cascade over 30 years! I hate law suits! However the loyal customers of Cascade should not be left to pay for the repairs of their own dishwashers and replacement of glasses, plastic ware and such. This is unacceptable. I read the complaints posted on the web. Not one answer as to how to fix this! They offered one customer coupons for more Cascade! Cascade fix this problem!

Marilyn Walsworth October 11, 2010 at 8:43 am

@Sandy MEYERS
I also just bought the new Cascade complete from Sam’s Club which is the big box of the capsules and the first one I used turned my aluminin pans and funnels that I had in there, black. I was shocked and I am writing the company for a full refund. I had no trouble with the blue and white capsules but chose the yellow and white for something different and that is what happened.

MG October 11, 2010 at 1:41 pm

Thank you!!! I thought I was going crazy….I have always used Cascade and lately my black utensil were coming out white and powdery…My glassware filmy and ruined. NOW I finally know why. I will be switching.

Mary Beth Lundell October 11, 2010 at 8:52 pm

@Mhudick
Finally after watching our local news today I now know its not just me and my dishwasher. It’s the new phosphate free Cascade I unknowingly have been using. My dishes have had a white film as well as my black plastic non stick utensils. My glassware is etched and ruined. My Kitchenaid dishwasher (Stainless Steel Interior)was also a mess with white build up. I do have a fix for the dishwasher. It is Dishwasher Magic and I found it at Lowe’s. You can also google Dishwasher Magic to see where it is sold near you. It really worked and made my dishwasher look brand new inside. However, it is only temporary and as long as Cascade does not come up with a solution to their horrible new formula then the buildup will come back.

spudmom October 14, 2010 at 10:26 pm

The problem is that when the GOVERNMENT decided to stop allowing the manufacturers to produce a quality product because the ENVIRONMENTALISTS demanded that we reduce the amount of phosphates in the water supply (never mind that most comes from agriculture and commercial uses) the MANUFACTURERS only had two years to reformulate and weren’t able to come up with an alternative that worked. The PEOPLE need to force the GOVERNMENT to repeal the law. In the meantime, buy a box of TSP at your local hardware store and add it to your detergent before they ban the sale of TSP, too.

Think about this when you are no longer able to buy incandescent lights and have a houseful of dull, ugly flourescents that are health hazards when dropped; when you have to flush twice to clean the toilet bowl; when you have to replace all your appliances before selling your house because they use too much energy; when large cars are no longer available because of ridiculous CAFE standards, so everyone will be driving a plastic box and auto fatalities rise again. Ready for less government yet? VOTE!

Debbie October 15, 2010 at 9:25 am

I am so upset over this mess Cascade has made of my life! All my dishes, pots & pans, silverware, cooking utensils, glassware, & coffee cups are ruined! I just bought a brand new dishwasher and I called the service repair company after all my attempts to fix the problem only to find out it was my dishwasher detergent. I told them I was using the best, “Cascade”. Then I was told Cascade was the problem. Is there any detergents anyone has found to be good? This crap won’t come off and I need to purchase new dishes and glassware but I am afraid to use my dishwasher on them.

rmsmith October 15, 2010 at 9:44 am

Our dish washing machine’s spray nozzles are plugged with a white gritty residue left over from Palmolive Eco phosphate free gel detergent. The machine is basically junk now, 18-months old. We have tried to remove the residue, but it is baked-on solid. Obviously they was no product testing prior to release to the general public. I should buy some Kenmore shares!

Larry October 17, 2010 at 12:42 pm

I am a appliance repairman with 20 years experience.I also have used cascade for many years in my Bosch dishwasher.Within the last 6 weeks I have been on numerous calls approx 20-30 all with the same problem,white cloudy glasses and ruined black utensils including my own.Everybody blames the dishwasher but in fact it is the detergent,I am currently trying different things to remove residue but I think some things will be ruined.Put the blame where it belongs not the appliance or the repairman but the lousy product with no phosphates.Test your product before you sell it to the public

mary a. wilsey October 20, 2010 at 3:05 pm

I have been using Cascade for years but I find my dishes and silverware are coted with a wight film and I can’t get it of unles I use a brillo pad. I will never buy your product again.

Mary Ann Wilsey

Jan October 20, 2010 at 3:49 pm

I agree with everyone here….I have been a faithful Cascade user for many years and have been completely satisfied with the results. However, since the change, I have not had one load of clean dishes. Actually, they are dirtier than when I put them in. All my aluminum is black, everything is gritty, and to think about eating off of anything that comes out of there is completely gross. Maybe the ENVIRONMENTALISTS who demanded the GOVERNMENT that we reduce the amount of phosphates in the water supply should checkout the farmers in the area in which I live. Liquid shit pits!!!! All to be loaded up and blew all over the fields spring and fall. Talk about water run off, and polluted waterways!!! I wonder why? Must be the dishwasher detergents? Yeah, okay!!!

Monica October 22, 2010 at 3:08 pm

I too thought I was loosing my mind as both my home dishwasher and the one at the office began creating this ugly white film all over everything. I was at the point of calling the repairman when I heard about this. I too am banning as much P & g from my shopping list as possible. This is so disgusting that I feel most of my dishes must be thrown away. maybe public awareness would have saved some of us from this mess early on. Funny thing is that good housekeeping gave these products their seal of approval for being even better than before. Wait, is that the same good housekeeping that just named Oil of Olay as the number one anti-aging product? Hmmm…oil of olay–cascade what do they have in common? oh yeah, they are both owned by one of the large advertisers. I have lost faith in cascade and credibility with good housekeeping research. what’s next…the tooth fairy.

Elizabeth October 23, 2010 at 5:02 pm

I have a white film all over everything. I spent money and time searching for cleaners, thinking it was my dishwasher. I finally went to get a new one and the salesman (thank goodness he was honest) told me about the problems with the new Cascade. I can’t believe they put this product out there without enough tests. I have so many items that are just ruined now.

Kevin October 27, 2010 at 2:23 pm

We’ve used Cascade for years. But recently, we struggled for 3 weeks thinking our 1 year-old Miele dishwasher had something terribly wrong with it. Dishes had a white film. Plasticware had a thicker film. Pots & pans had the thickest white film. Our steak knives with dark wooden handles were getting bleached grey. We started having food particles stuck to the silverware.

We have called Miele repair 3 times. The 1st time we were told that it was something we were doing wrong and to make sure we used less dishwashing powder, as it was accumulating on everything. The 2nd time we were told that a detergent residue had built up on the inside of the dishwasher for the past 12 months and it was now leeching onto the plates. Miele sent us a liquid to use with an empty wash cycle which would clean the insides. That cleaned the dishwasher, but the next load of dishes had the white residue again. Finally a 3rd call was enough for Miele to acknowledge that there might be a problem with the detergent. They are sending us their phosphate-free detergent. We’ll see if that works.

We are terribly disappointed that P&G let their product on the market without adequate testing. We have no idea what the ‘film’ is and how much we have ingested as we struggled to clean our dishes.

For now, we’re stuck with this kitchen environmental ‘disaster’. It’s much more than a few white blemishes on our dishes and we will not “suck it up” as inferred by many ‘Green’ bloggers. But since we are in a no-phosphate state, does anyone know of a detergent that DOES work? Obviously Cascade is out. But what can we use until sanity is restored in the dishwasher detergent marketplace?

Lakelady October 27, 2010 at 10:02 pm

Feel some relief from finding out that I am not going crazy and am not alone in the dismay about Cascade!! I, too, have been a loyal Cascade Complete user for years and my stainless Kitchenaid has performed well with that formula. Changed to Action Pacs (Complete) and thought it was o.k., but bought Action Pacs with Dawn and had a disaster on my hands! The gritty residue was horrible and I worried about how much we might have ingested off of what we thouht were clean plates (mugs and glasses were obviously not usable). Hand washed everything in vinegar water (hot) and some dish soap. Still handwashing because I don’t know what to buy!
Will have to read all the labels and use extra Jet Dry, etc., but will not subject my dishwasher or dishes to such
abuse!! Called P & G yesterday I was so upset. Had not yet thought to Google and find out what might be wrong! They are, of course, sending me a coupon. Suggested I go back to Complete, but guess what??….there is none on the shelves in any store. Hope someone can help all of us find a safe, efficient solution. I did throw some glasses away already. HELP1

Osmel D. Motas, Sr. October 28, 2010 at 1:49 am

I am an American senior citizen on fixed income. Ran out and went to Costco but they had this new Cascade “Complete” dishwasher detergent so I bought it. Big time mistake. This detergent ruined cooking utensils, one Calphalon pan, fry pans, silverware, stainless steel and aluminum utensils. It leaves a white film on “everything” and then one has to scrob and scrob and scrob but no way to get it out. My Oxo cooking utensils all ruined. I want Cascade to reimburse me for all this. I am low income.

K November 2, 2010 at 4:43 am

@thomas becker
Would be nice…I caught mine after only a couple of rewashes….used gell liquid instead and they cam out much cleaner…

Patty Lee November 4, 2010 at 12:45 am

Tonight, after at least 3 months of trying every conceivable combination of settings on our “used-to-be-fabulous dishwasher” – - and now reading all the above which covers everything we found on our dishes after washing with Cascade’s new light-green-boxed product for months (from scum to white residue somehow burned on, to dullness to dirty feeling to white film to finger prints that were worse after washing than before, and on and on) – - we feel extremely deceived by the manufacturers who either didn’t test their new “without-phosphorous” product or didn’t care. (My husband and I didn’t know phosphorous from non-phosphorous until now!”) As far as we know, this company never made a public statement or warning that this “new” product could ruin our dishes, silverware, and even our dishwasher.

We are Katrina victims in New Orleans, and for a long time, I thought it was my own imagination about what was happening to our dishes in the washing machine. We were puzzled months later by looking back on the fact that our dishwashing problems seemed ironically to coincide with my husband’s purchasing of 2 for 1 price of newly-designed bigger boxes of Cascade. With that first washing with Cascade, our dishes were coming out of the washer with scum all over them. To the touch, the plates were dirty feeling. So, we thought it was our dishwasher – - never even considering our tried-and-true Cascade product! We tried every combination of cycle on our dishwasher imaginable, thinking it was on the blink even though it was perfect before the first use of this new Cascade. Then we considered that maybe the light-green package was a “knock off” of the Cascade that we normally used religiously for 23 years.

My husband started shopping for a new dishwasher about a month ago (prompted by my continuous complaining about the way our dishes were coming out AFTER being washed), but we couldn’t afford any of the prices. Otherwise our dishwasher seemed fine but the dishes were always coming out dirtier than when I put them in the dishwasher. We were at our wit’s end with frustration over how our dishes could be so weird. Even after hand-washing them over and over, they have a kind of burned-in smudge factor to them with dullness and white residue. Our list of how we were “trying to figure it all out”, just like the others mentioned here, goes on and on. We’ve spent at least 3, maybe even 4 months with this time-consuming problem. So tonight, for the first time, we decided to research Cascade on the internet after my husband said, “maybe they changed their formula and didn’t tell anybody or cut corners”. That’s when we found this site and a few others with the identical problems we’ve been facing.

So to realize it’s the Cascade which has created all this frustration, anxiety, ruination of kitchen wares including possibly our dishwasher, makes us so perturbed and sad, realizing that a large corporation (that sports the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval right on their new light-green boxes of Cascade), has tricked us into buying and using their products without warning us or obviously testing this new product. Had they tested their products, they’d have learned what all of us are learning now: that this new Cascade product is destructive and should never have been placed on the market and should be off the market. I can’t get the residue off our dishes even after hand-washing them!

Cascade makers, you should be ashamed of yourselves! What next for us consumers?! Ralph Nader, where are you?

michelle November 5, 2010 at 10:30 am

Today was the last straw for me! I am taking stainless steel knives out of my dishwaser that are so filmy and almost ‘corroded’ with a gray/white color and I am livid. Lime-away will not even remove this stuff. My regular dishes are white and I have been noticing the “feeling” of a rough film on them, but could not tell what it was. The same thing with my knives, forks, spoons (stainless steel). I just thought it was because the new detergent needed more “umphf” so I used the long cyle on the D/W instead of the short cycle. Now, I am figuring out that I was only making it worse with more of this non-phosphate detergent. Where can we complain? Does anyone know? I would submit a letter or sign a petition. BTW, my detergent is Sunlight non-phosphate. I recently switched from Cascade to this, only to find they are all the same as far as the damage to our dishes, cookware, dishwashers. Shameful.

christine widman November 5, 2010 at 5:34 pm

I too have been using Cascade for years and recently purchased a new “design looking” Cascade Advanced at CostCo. I first noticed a few days ago that my silverware (silverplate – handed down to me from my mother) felt “odd” – gritty somehow. Yesterday I took my silverware out of the dishwasher and it was clouldy and yes, looked corroded. I knew then something was dreadfully wrong with this new Cascade. I was and still am very upset and glad to see that I am correct. Something is dreadfully wrong with these new dishwasher detergents.
And I also do not believe in lawsuits but I don’t know what it will cost to replace my destroyed family silverware.
I too asked myself – haven’t they tested their product? This corrosion happened after only several washings!
I certainly will sign some kind of petition to get this destructive product off the market.

Brenda November 6, 2010 at 12:33 pm

SOAK YOUR GLASSES IN WHITE VINEGAR FOR 30 MINUTES AND THEY WILL LOOK BRAND NEW! Just make sure to submerge them completely. Then I washed them by hand (to get the vinegar smell off). My husband thought I bought new glasses!
My glasses were very bad. They actually looked like they were frosted white. So try it! It works!
I will do my coffee mugs, my plates and my serving dishes next.
I am guessing it will also work on silverware and black handled utensils…
I started to google this and think you can also run vinegar through the dishwasher to clean it. I also saw a posting for only using vinegar in your dishwasher for washing your dishes and so I will read more on that.
I guess we could all go back to hand washing!

Allison November 9, 2010 at 11:12 am

Same story here. All my black non-stick cooking utensils are totally ruined and dishes & glasses are coming out with a white film. After reading all these and comments on other websites I am furious with Proctor & Gamble! My next project is to look for a new diswashing detergent NOT made by P&G! I hope someone sues them!

Jennifer November 10, 2010 at 10:52 am

Wow what a great product! NOT! I purchased the Cascade All in 1 pacs and everything seemed ok the first few times I used it but not since. Recently I had a full load of dishes come out with this whitish and spotty film so I thought I had over filled the dishwasher. I removed a large frying pan and re-washed. This time it completely ruined the finish on another frying pan I had in there. I can’t believe they didn’t test this product. It better not have damaged my new dishwasher!

Ron November 10, 2010 at 2:06 pm

Cascade had two years to reformulate to Government mandates and has totally failed. The GE dishwashers that use smart dispense gel are being ruined and the dishes and machine coated with a white deposit. There should be a class action law suit for the damage to aluminum pots, and all dishware as well as dishwashers damage. Is this film safe to eat or toxic. If there is such a lawsuit please post how to join the suit.

Patti November 17, 2010 at 4:24 pm

@thomas becker

@Jennifer
I got a new dishwasher a few months ago, at the same time I must of run out of the cascade with phosphate and bought the new that has no phosphate to speak of. My black plastic turners got that white film on them and some glasses got cloudy. The door & bottom & heating elements was coated with white film.

I found out what it was after googling, the answer to the problem is Lemi Shine. You fill the cascade in the prewash and put Lemi Shine in the main. I wish I’d of taken a picture of the white coat that was on my new dishwasher door and the bottom heating elements. For shame Cascade, you could of done better. I was using Jetdry too but it didn’t help.

My daughter lives in town too & she’s using the more expensive tablets & her dishwasher is fine as are the dishes. I just wonder what is in the expensive tabs that keep the dishes looking fine.

Get yourself some Lemi Shine near the dish detergents at Kroger or Walmart etc………It really works.

N.Petty November 20, 2010 at 1:15 pm

I hate the new Cascade, without phosphate. I have some really old
copper-like measuring cups and the new Cascade turned them completely black. They’re permanently ruined. I had no idea that phosphate had been taken out of Cascade. I’ve been a user of Cascade Complete for years, and I noticed that I could no longer find it on the grocery shelves. A friend told me that the old Cascade Complete was no longer available. Not only did the “new” Cascade ruin my measuring cups, but most of my plastic spatulas, and my
stainless steel silverware and all of my drinking glasses have a chalky film on them. I’m really mad! I suppose Cascade was changed for
a reason. What that reason is, I probably will never know. A good philosophy to follow,..is : When it “ain’t broke”, don’t try to fix
it. I’ve got a friend who is washing her dishes by hand to avoid the dreaded “white film”. I’m a very dissatisfied customer. N.J.P.

John Speer November 26, 2010 at 10:53 pm

I am glad to find this info on the web. We have the same mess with our glassware/ For many years we had great results with Cascade. P & G, what are your plans to fix this problem??

S. Jones November 27, 2010 at 8:19 pm

First of all I have been using PHOSPHATE FREE LIQUID DISHWASHING DETERGENT for the past 4 years (pamolive eco). So not all phosphate free detergents are bad because I have not had these problems as described above. There is going to be some white spots occasionally. I really am disgusted by the comment above about the government and laws to ban phosphate detergents! I live in area surrounded by water (rivers, oceans) and I can tell you that nature is so beautiful and vulnerable and we are destroying nature, wildlife, and our own water source. People are so self centered and spoiled in the country. Everyone is willing to use tons of toxic chemicals to have spotless dishes and glasses. Then everyone wonders why the cancer rate is so high and continue to grow and why animals are suffering. If you look you can find phosphate free GEL/LIQUID detergents that work and are eco-friendly. I have not bought Cascade detergent in 10 years…I think there product contains way too much chlorine bleach and other hazardous chemicals just to make a profit. Bottom line is all these big companies want to make profit and they don’t care who or what gets hurt! They don’t care if they hurt you or the rivers/lakes/streams. Our future generations are going to have nothing beautiful in nature to enjoy because we will all have killed it off to have clean dishes and clothes!!! Crazy!!!!!!

Ann November 28, 2010 at 8:20 am

If you think your dishes look bad, consider what is happening to your dishwasher pump in your machine. We had all of the problems described throughout the comments above. Finally, we decided it was our dishwasher and purchased a new one. When we removed the old one we found the entire bottom of the pump caked in white residue. This didn’t just happen with Cascade…it happened with Palmolive and store brands (tried EVERYTHING to get at the root of the problem). Fortunately, I live in a state that still sells Cascade containing phosphates so I’m good for now. My dish loads are coming out of my new dishwasher sparkly and clean, but I am angry that we had to go to the expense of purchasing a new dishwasher due to damage caused by this product.

Michele December 1, 2010 at 12:54 pm

CASCADE POWDER WITH DAWN, AFTER ONLY ABOUT 2-3 WEEKS’ USE: I first noticed deposits on my flatware, and thought it was due to poor pre-rinsing. It did not come off. Then, I noticed it each time I unloaded. Now, I could see my plates and glasses were getting “etched.”

I found that scrubbing my flatware with baking soda has removed the deposits. I have yet to tackle the plates and glasses. I’ve been a life-long Cascade user, but will change brands over this.

Wiliam Hubt December 5, 2010 at 6:35 am

something you all should know too … as a repair person of 40 years on dish machines, commercial and domestic, this is what I have been finding out with the cascade product or dishwashing soaps in general … after they have finished their cycle there is a white residue forming around the machines pump intake and on the machines impellers and seals …the intake is where the water is sucked into the pump and sent throughout your wash dish machine’s wash arms to wash your dishes … the impeller is the blade that pushes the water through the system … the seal is the device that stops the water from getting into the motor … if either fails, your dish machine will need to be repaired … this residue is now plugging up everything …. where you now, not only, lose your wash pressure, to wash the dishes, but you have less cleaning power being done to those dishes …. this will give the allusion that your pump is going bad, its not … its just all plugged up … you need to clear away the debris that is blocking the in take and clean the impeller … I literally had to take a small chisel, ever so carefully, and chip away at this harden powder blocking my intake …I removed pulled the impeller off to clean the debris off of it, at that time I inspected the seals they were fine … there was a residue forming on it … once I achieved those repairs my dishes were coming clean of food particles, but still had the white chalky film on them… Not every body has my kind of skills to take care of their machines … until the Mfg solve this problem I suggest everybody to start washing by hand again … I know I hated it … I now have my 3,000 dollar dish washer just siting there laughing at me (little humor here)… the only thing I can say is somebody should be held responsible for your repairs being done to clear out the intakes and the parts to the machine … I personally don’t think it should be the consumer … its not there fault that they haven’t been able to make a dish machine soap that doesn’t leave a white residue in their machine …

Wiliam Hubt December 5, 2010 at 6:45 am

@Larry
lary is sooooooo correct here ….

GM December 7, 2010 at 1:48 pm

Anyone know how much TSP should be added to the dishwasher soap? A ratio would be nice :)

Is TSP powder mixed with powder soap, better than; TSP liquid mixed with liquid soap?

GM December 9, 2010 at 1:10 pm

Don’t panic folks, I have a solution that will return your expensive stainless steel dishwasher to the mirror finish it once had without a single scratch. Steps to take: Pour 1/2 cup of white vinegar into bottom of dishwasher on EACH cycle. I did a pot and pan wash cycle and had to pour vinegar into the wash 3 separate times. After the wash and the rinse cycle completes, stop the dishwasher before it goes into the dry cycle. Remove the racks and use a plastic bristle / plastic handle scrub brush and scrub any heavy deposits using very little water on the brush. Immediately wipe off the area you brushed and repeat until the stainless dishwasher starts to look like it is only stained (like hard water stains in a coffee pot). On the rubber side seals, use the sharp edge of a small knife held at a right angle to the rubber surface and gently run up and down the seals until the white powder begins to erode away, wipe with a sponge as you go until it is nice and clean. Hold the blade at a fixed distance from your finger tip so that when you scrape the rubber seals, you don’t accidentally scrape your metal surface with the knife. Whatever you do, DO NOT use a metal object to scrape the crust from your dishwasher, only use it on rubber door seals. Once all the heavy deposits have been removed, start another wash load WITHOUT soap. At the start of each cycle, add 1/2 cup of white vinegar to the bottom and allow it to finish all cycles except the dry cycle. Do this repeatedly until you are satisfied you have gotten all the crust off, that you can, using a brush. By now you should have a “clean” dishwasher that looks absolutely ruined from staining. Don’t worry, here is where your fears will disappear…go to your medicine cabinet and grab a tube of toothpaste. Yes, that is the stuff that will make your day! Using an old (clean) toothbrush and toothpaste, begin to clean every square inch of that machine (interior only). I had considered applying the toothpaste to the sponge and just wiping it down, but I was afraid that the sponge might pick up a crystal (rock) of the cascade and put a scape into my stainless surface. I was taking no chances at this point and I’m now glad I didn’t. Use a little water with the toothpaste and apply it as though you were brushing your teeth and the stuff will come right off. Wipe with a sponge as you go and you’ll be done in no time. Avoid using a heavy grit toothpaste. I used crest for sensitive teeth formula (for those who are curious). BTW, I experimented with CLR, TSP, Dishwasher Magic, WD40, tarnish remover, and even gasoline, only to find that the best solution was vinegar during the wash, brushing between wash treatments and the final step with the toothpaste. I haven’t figured out how to deal with the racks yet. Mine are battle ship gray that now look like they’re sun bleached (faded). After brushing the knife rack using the plastic brush, I found that the residue will come off however, it is impossible to brush every part of the rack that has so many bends in it. I’m beginning to think I might have to power wash them with a high PSI power sprayer. On the bright side of things, I noticed the residue coming off areas of the racks after continued vinegar treatments in the wash cycles. I’m still looking for a soap that doesn’t create this problem with no success thus far. If you plan to continue to use your stainless dishwasher, I recommend staying away from powder detergents. They seem to crystallize and cake to the dishwasher surface faster than gels. For now I’m using Finish Gel with jet dry rinsing agent. By the way, try to remember your congressperson while you’re scrubbing away.

Bette Boudinot December 12, 2010 at 5:56 pm

I am now using the second large container of Cascade with Dawn. #03700028193, 120 oz. Obviously,it has been changed from a thick white substance to a gel. My Kitchen Aide Dishwasher has been very satisfactory until changing the Cascade formula. Now, my dishes are unacceptable for use–the glasses are milky, the silverware is streaked and sometimes not clean. What do you recommend? I recommend going back to the old formula. I’ve used it for years and was always very happy with the results.

Dianne December 14, 2010 at 2:55 pm

I agree with all of the complaints that I read about Cascade with Dawn. Unfortunately for me, as I have always used cascade to the exclusion of all others, I bought 2 bottles st the time I purchased this product. So, it won’t be costing me $.20 per load, because I am about to throw away all that I have left. So, it’s the cost of two bottles for two loads of dishes. This has also removed my confidence in Cascade as a product. So, my next venture is to experiment with some othe brand – after 39 years – or wash all of my dishes by hand, have my dishwasher removed, and buy cabinets to put into the old dishwasher space.

scott December 18, 2010 at 5:41 pm

this is the typical reslult when people bow to the greeny left! the product does a horrible job and costs the end user wasted dollars to repair a washer and replace dishware. As usual it is nonsensical and short sighted blither that we all have to live with as a result. Ethonol anyone? Is P&G subsidized to produce this horrible product? Did the Wisconson Politicians get a quid pro quo or a nice little vacation in some green destination resort? Farcical!

mpdunca December 27, 2010 at 11:34 pm

Who’s going to start a class action suit? I received a Kitchen Aid mixer for Christmas. After one wash, the bread mixer and all the alumium parts have oxidized and leave grey streaks in my food. Oxidation continues after hand washing.

Stupid me. I knew this would happen because my aluminum pans are pitted and ice cream scoops leave metallic gouges in our Christmas dessert. And I forgot to read Kitchen Aid’s fine print that recommends against washing their aluminum parts in a dishwasher – ho kidding!

If anyone is interested I can share the ridiculous response from P&G.

I really think P&G should be liable for all the ruined dishwashers, utensils and pots and pans. They sold us a product that did not work, and it clearly produced harm. The product should have been removed from the market months ago.

Nancy Law January 5, 2011 at 10:27 pm

Dear P&G,

I have used Cascade and then Cascade complete for years. Now everything aluminum I have put in the dishwasher has come out discolored and with what sometimes seems to be metal residue, and I worry about metal leaching and safety for me and my family. It has ruined cookware I have had for 10 – 30 years with no problems until now. I understand you were required to get rid of the phosphates and change the formula. My top of the line Bosch dishwasher continues to get glasses and plates clean, so I am not having the experience of dirty dishes that others have complained about. What do you suggest about the aluminum cookware? Can anyone suggest an alternate product? Thank you, Nancy L, Parker Colorado

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Stephanie Mills January 28, 2011 at 6:22 pm

OK. I am so grateful I stumbled upon this website. Just like the thousands of others who have commented above I HATE Cascade without phosphates! I too only buy Cascade and have for 35 years but I am soooo tired of opening up my dishwasher to take out what should be clean dishes and wiping off a white film that is disgusting. My pots and pans look horrible and am completely mortified when anyone comes over and sees my dishes! I guess my complaints are identical to everyone else and will do whatever to get this fixed. I should not have to purchase new dishes because of a product that is BAD!
At this point I am not using my dishwasher anymore and I am washing them by hand. Thanks Cascade for making my life easier…NOT!!!! I will gladly jump on any class action suit!

candice January 29, 2011 at 12:18 am

yup, same problem here only i have gone through 3 dishwashers thinking it was the problem. Thanks a lot to all the people who are apart of putting this cruptive soap on the market shelf.

Caroline January 29, 2011 at 11:45 am

Like everyone here, I also started having problems after using the new Cascade. However, I use the ‘energy saver’ for the drying cycle on my 30-yr-old GE. I’ve been a faithful Cascade user for all that time. Dishes were coming out dirtier than when they went in; I rinse most everything, too. Glasses were coming out noticeably spotted. After two loads, I started hand-washing until I could figure out what’s wrong. Now I know! Glad I chose to research before heading out to the appliance store! If some companies can make enviro-friendly, or natural cleaning products – like ‘Earth Friendly Products’ or ‘Sun & Earth’ – you’d think they could come up with something for dishwashers! In the meantime, I’ll be using vinegar soaks to eliminate the grit and spots, and washing by hand! And I’ll monitor websites like this one to see if anyone has discovered a detergent that works as it should.

enchant5509 January 29, 2011 at 2:03 pm

I too have experienced the problems with white (really hard to remove) cement film and thought it was the dishwasher. Silverware seemed to be ruined and it was really noticeable on plastics. I have always bought Costco Cascade but ran out and just went to the store and bought the Dawn Shine Shield Cascade. I am now using Finish (no phosphates either) and it is working really well. After one use dishwasher film was gone. Glasses, silverware and plastics look awesome. I wonder if it is more than just the removal of the phosphates? I will call the company and get my money back-don’t just throw it out. The more they have to refund, the quicker the solution will be. I agree we need to be environmentally conscience.

Kim January 30, 2011 at 2:06 pm

It isn’t Cascade’s fault, it is new government regulations. They banned phosphates in dish soap in 17 states. Instead of making different products for different states, all the companies are removing phosphates from all products. Complain to the government, not cascade.

muguette hill January 31, 2011 at 11:54 am

I have used Cascade and then Cascade complete for years. I use to love it ,not anymore!!!! It need to be Ban!!!!ruined everythings

jw1318 January 31, 2011 at 11:55 am

Same problem here! Just had to write a check for $98 for non-service. I called Sears about all the same problems and as many probably already know, you have to pay a fee for them just coming out. I should have made this lookup my first thing to do. He explained that some months ago Cascade stop using phosphates and that’s the whole problem. Unfortunately, it was a decision by the gov’t not Cascade. I did as the owner’s manual suggested and put the already clean dishes (included etching in glasses, clouded pots and plates with a white coating on them)through a wash cycle with NO detergent and 2 cups of vinegar on the bottom shelf. I was shocked! They came out great! Instructions say you can’t use the vinegar rinse all the time. That’s my starting point and from then on I’ll be using Finish. It still has phosphate in it, which makes me wonder if there is a gov’t ban how can there still be products with it in it? Sounds fishy to me and I don’t mean phishy. The guy also told me that if you contact Cascade, they send you a coupon for the Cascade product that has phosphate. You have to give them the number off the box of detergent.

jw1318 January 31, 2011 at 11:57 am

Also, the vinegar seems to help with the white residue on utensils used for non-stick pots.

Joan Hindbo February 5, 2011 at 1:33 pm

I have used Cascade for over 40 years and this is the first time I have had trouble with it. My glasses became very cloudy after I used 1/2 box of granules. I rinsed with vinegar and that seemed to help clear the glasses up again. I have now switched detergent. I am very dissappointed in your product.

Jo February 7, 2011 at 8:00 pm

spudmom :
The problem is that when the GOVERNMENT decided to stop allowing the manufacturers to produce a quality product because the ENVIRONMENTALISTS demanded that we reduce the amount of phosphates in the water supply (never mind that most comes from agriculture and commercial uses) the MANUFACTURERS only had two years to reformulate and weren’t able to come up with an alternative that worked. The PEOPLE need to force the GOVERNMENT to repeal the law. In the meantime, buy a box of TSP at your local hardware store and add it to your detergent before they ban the sale of TSP, too.
Think about this when you are no longer able to buy incandescent lights and have a houseful of dull, ugly flourescents that are health hazards when dropped; when you have to flush twice to clean the toilet bowl; when you have to replace all your appliances before selling your house because they use too much energy; when large cars are no longer available because of ridiculous CAFE standards, so everyone will be driving a plastic box and auto fatalities rise again. Ready for less government yet? VOTE!

Three cheers to you! You’ve hit the nail on the head to perfection. This country is nothing but a frukin nanny state.

I just bought a 4.5lb box of TSP and will be adding some to the dish washer tonight. Looking forward to clean, clear glasses and dishes again.

Monica February 10, 2011 at 11:31 am

Okay…why am I even using a dishwasher? Need a rinse agent in order to have dry dishes..now the detergents don’t clean…. I now have to hand wash and/or hand dry all my dishes AFTER the dishwasher….

debbie February 10, 2011 at 6:36 pm

I use cascade with dawn – gel it has now gone all liquid not like the white gel it is suppouse to be why

Mike February 18, 2011 at 1:12 pm

I’m also having the same problems. What I have found is the Cascade powder isn’t breaking down it’s not dissolving. I’m now using the Cascade Gel. this has solved my problem of streaks from undissolved powder. this might help others.

John February 19, 2011 at 12:54 pm

So glad I found this site….dittos to all the above, just glad I didn’t buy a new dishwasher. I’m contacting my elected officials tomorrow. Maybe they would like to come wash dishes with me. These are the same idiots that bought into man made global warming, hook, line and sinker!

Nelly Short February 22, 2011 at 10:11 am

I am angry… Cascade promises ” sparkling dishes”.. What I got was white glop on my glasses, and a training lesson in washing dishes by hand.Shame on you for claims that lie and your suggestions that we try some of your other products..I will be your strongest negative commercial to any one who will listen

B Clennett February 24, 2011 at 12:37 pm

I have used Cascade for over 30 years. My glasses, cutlery, black utensils and the rubber on the kitchenaid dishwash all have turned gray. I will not ever use cascade again no matter what they put out on the market. This product should have been tested when they added dawn. I wont even use Dawn now for hand washing

dh canada March 5, 2011 at 5:30 pm

It is fine to blame the government regulations re: banning phosphates, but that does not mean that the products should not be tested prior to release. Cascade and Dawn have ruined their reputation. I will never buy either of these products again either.

C Blacklock March 6, 2011 at 5:22 pm

I have never had such horrible results using any other dishwasher detergent. The container spouts “Rinses away residue, Leaves dishes Sparkling” yet every single item in my dishwasher’s load was left with white spots and streaks that are impossible to get off – even scrubbing them with a scouring pad. I might as well through my glasses out as I would NEVER use them myself let alone anyone else looking as they do. Came out dirtier than when they went in. A whole dishwasher full of my things ruined. Thanks for nothing.

Hello March 12, 2011 at 7:53 pm

Quite awhile ago I bought a very large container of Cascade (with Dawn) gel at BJs Wholesale Club. I keep it in my basement which is about 55 degrees in the winter. It got very hard to squeeze into the smaller container I kept under the sink, so I wrote to Cascade. They said they had a bad batch that solidified when too cold, that I could get it to work by keeping it in a warmer place (it was better in the summer) but they would be happy to send me a coupon to replace it.

The coupon was only good for a few months so last summer I bought another large container of gel from BJs. I didn’t need it until 6 weeks ago. I had to keep it on my big steam radiator for 3 weeks before I could get anything out of it, and it is still almost so solid that I have to lay it on its side over the sink and smash the side of it to get a little out.

Since then not a single load has come out clean. I’ve run the same set of dishes through 3 times – Normal, Heavy Duty and Heavy Duty with Hi-Temp Scrub. Everything was still dirty 3 loads later. I had a pot that I had made hamburger soup in, and the entire load (after 3 times) still had slime on it from the fat.

Today in frustration I bought a small box of Finish Tablets. And what do you know? My dishes are clean.

Anyone want a huge bottle of Cascade that feels like a brick?

Hello March 12, 2011 at 7:56 pm

ps – Shop Rite brand states on the bottle which date codes have phosphate and which don’t.

Is the gel solidifying a phosphate issue as well?

Adrian March 12, 2011 at 8:41 pm

I work in the area of Quality Control and knowing how important it is to control the quality of a product has outrage and disappointed with the manufactures of dishwasher detergents. They removed phosphate from detergents without having investigated the quality of their produce and the changes that it would have on the produce and the health of the consumers who us it. My first concern is my health next the fact that almost every dish, glass, pan and utensil I have has been coated with this residue. I’ve washed my glassware several times in an effort to remove this residue only to damage them more. I believe that the drying process helped to bake the residue on to my glassware, utensil and cook wares. I have experiment by using different solvents to see if the glasses were etched or coated with residue to find out its residue. I tried using nail polish remover and rubbing alcohol and was able to remove some of it with alcohol. Now I have concerns that this residue may have leach into my food. Since it can be removed even in the slight this leaching is possible. Now those who manufacture Cascade Dish Detergent need to have those some chemist who developed their formula to go back to a quality produce before putting in the market for consumers. Also they need to inform the consumers that the problem is not the dishwashers and to not call out a appliance servicer that can’t yield that results they need.

Hello March 13, 2011 at 7:05 pm

Is this really a phosphate issue? I realize Cascade is blaming it on the lack thereof but others have mentioned that they have used other phosphate-free soaps with no issues.

I found info on Cascades site last night that my jug should have spent 4 hrs in a sink full of hot water to restore it to a normal gel instead of a solid brick. Can you believe I managed to get TWO bad batches?

I am SO glad I didn’t wash my cats dishes in that stuff. Luckily I didn’t have the staining issues some people have had, it just wouldn’t clean at all.

That pan that went through 3 times and still had food stuck to the bottom is now spotless with the new detergent. I even put a muffin pan with muffin residue in it for the hell of it – also spotless, all on normal loads.

I’m sorry, but I will never use Cascade again, it’s just too much of an issue.

Brenda Fahnholz March 14, 2011 at 9:39 pm

I switched to cascade in 2005 and about 3 months ago i noticed this cloud of white film left behind but as i read the reviews looks like it has to do with the no phosphate in the detergent, I’m glad I’m not going crazy and spending money on a repair man We need to get our old recipe back!!! I have a dish washer to help me do my dishes!!

Jody Tompson March 15, 2011 at 10:14 am

Hi everyone – I have a suggestion to try. It has worked perfectly for me. I tried vinegar (as suggested above) and it works OK but not great. We have hard water here in Florida and there is a new company that has invented a dishwasher additive that REMOVES ALL hard water deposits from my dishes. It’s made of all natural ingredients, is safe for septic tanks, and has no phosphates. It’s called CitriClean. Right now it’s only available locally but the website will be done soon. http://www.citriclean.net is the address.

Lindsay March 15, 2011 at 3:59 pm

Wow, am I glad I saw this site! Not that it makes me feel any better, but at least I know it’s not just ME! My stainless steal and black knife handles have looked like a white, filmy mess ever since using Cascade with Dawn. I had no idea that “name brand” detergent was the cause of this problem! I have a rinse agent in my dishwasher, so I couldn’t figure out why my dishes were coming out coated with this stuff. I thought maybe I had overfilled the detergent holder, but I noticed it did the same thing the next time I used it.

Well, luckily I have a new box of Finish (used to be called Electrosol). I hope it won’t cause the same issues. I do NOT want to go back to washing dishes by hand!

Oops–my typo. I meant stainless STEEL.

Marty March 19, 2011 at 9:47 pm

WOW I wish I would have read this a week ago…I totally destroyed all my glass wear with the new light green box of cascade and my black Utensils are covered with a white film….I hope my dish washer is O.K.
Cascade just lost all my business.

Jody Tompson March 20, 2011 at 12:00 pm

Your dishes are not destroyed. The white film or powder is a mixture of magnesium and calcium (the normal minerals in hard water). Once you are able to remove the minerals, the dishes are good as new. Try vinegar or CitriClean.

Annie March 31, 2011 at 9:29 am

I cannot believe I found this website. I spent the weekend shopping for new dishwasher even though my top of the line machine is only 2 years old. Couldn’t take it any more. Dirty glasses, dishes, and damaged pans! Guess it’s back to handwashing. Thanks for saving me the cost of a new machine!

Valerie April 4, 2011 at 11:10 am

@Jo
I have the same complaints as everyone else. I am glad I read this post because I was looking as adding some high phosphate fertilizer to the mix. Now I will be buying TSP.

What is really dangerous here is that we, as consumers, don’t know the mix that did the job, so if they think they had a problem before… lookout, I can see way more problems occuring when we all add the Phosphates ourselves.

Bill B. April 4, 2011 at 1:05 pm

Let us all know how the product from Miele works!@Kevin

ali April 9, 2011 at 12:34 am

@Jody Tompson
I was having a horrible time getting dishes clean once Cascade changed their formula!!! FINALLY found something that works… use 1 Finish Quantum tablet (kind of expensive but worth it) and about 1 heaping Tablespoon Lemi-Shine. Dishes come out perfect and shining every time!

R Rennie April 10, 2011 at 9:04 pm

I’m am so upset with this Cascade phosphate free product. I have had a cake pan I’ve used for 48 years of married life , as it was a wedding present. I have ALWAYS washed it in the dishwasher & have always bought Cascade, but after washing it one time with this product it is totally carroded & ruined & has to be discarded. I’m very very angry about this & will NEVER use Cascade again!! It has also ruined the bottom of my one quart saucepan!!GRRRRRR

Julie Urosevich April 16, 2011 at 7:02 pm

I have had terrible problems with Cascade and other dishwashing powders as well. Are there 2 kinds of TSP? Is one called a ‘cleaner’? Which one should be used as an additive/phosphate to cascade?

Angeline F. April 17, 2011 at 6:15 pm

@MARILYN

I agree! TERRIBLE…I’ve tried the pacs, the liquid and the powder. I’ve tried Cascade, store brand and Electrosol…ALL OF THEM SUCK! My glasses are so ruined that I even tried washing them in BLEACH!! NOTHING removes this chalky white residue or the flakes of white powder. Not even mason jars come clean and they’re practically indestructible. PLEASE give us the phosphates back…this is ridiculous! I’m changing to all plastic glasses because the glass ones cannot be cleaned in this crap!

Leslie April 19, 2011 at 11:52 pm

I still use Cascade—until I use it up and buy Finish—but I have found the wonder product—probably close to citriclean—-but it is called Lemishine and I purchase it at Walmart. It cleaned up the dishwasher—and took the white film off of my black utensils, my pans and some of my dishware. My glasses now look brand new—and I was getting ready to throw them away. Lemishine also has a website if you can’t find it at your Walmart. I would call it a miracle product!!!

Leslie April 19, 2011 at 11:53 pm

@Angeline F.
Lemishine—you’ll love it!!!!

John B April 22, 2011 at 9:54 am

Lot of complaining and finger pointing is not getting any results. If someone can connect the problems on hand between dishwasher and detergent manufacturers and come up with a solution. Help the dishes are discussing.

erica hagerty April 26, 2011 at 6:42 am

cascade sucks it left a film on everything I own. I had to get all new tupperware because all of my food that I stored in them taste like cascade. I also has to replace all of my baby bottles also… moral of the story shit sucks.

Fred Walker April 29, 2011 at 7:15 pm

Cascade Gel with Dawn ruined all of our glassware, silverware, and cooking pans. This is ridiculous. How do I sue for damages?

Virginia May 12, 2011 at 7:26 am

I had the same problem with the cloudy dishes from Cascade. The joke was I switched to Cascade because Consumer Reports recommended it as the best.
I had a repair man come out to look at my dishwasher thinking it was broken and the first thing that he did was look to see what detergent that I was using. He siad that he had gone to at least 50 homes that had the same problem in the DFW area.
He said that I needed to rinse my glasses in a white Vinegar and water bath and re wash them with another detergent like “Finish”. It worked like a charm. My glasses were clear again!
Who is going to reimburse us for all that we have had to spend on repair men and throwing out our Cascade?

Ruthanne Woodward May 16, 2011 at 10:37 am

A friend brought me some of the Cascade with red instead of blue in the tablet–would you share with me what is the difference–I loved the blue and white tablet, but am not satisfied with this red and white–thank you so much.

rosine green May 16, 2011 at 7:37 pm

I have used Cascade for years and was always pleased .I even washed my fine silver with Cascade. .Now my fine siver is ruined!
it looks as if it has been cleaned with sand paper .It will have to go to a jeweler to have it polished and I expect the company to pay for this.Please send me the name and address of the CEO as I plan to send my damaged pieces for him to inspect. In the meantime I shall try other products and will return the unused box of Cascade to the Star Market.

Edith Ethridge May 18, 2011 at 4:51 pm

I used the Cascade tablets after a party. Thirty wine glasses and water goblets are ruined. I tried soaking them in vinegar as recommended by the “help line” but it did not remove the cloudy film. I can’t believe this product is on the market. I am furious about this and a coupon for another box of Cascade will not solve my problem. Is there some class action suit on this? How did I not know of this problem? Take it off the market and replace my wine glasses!

LL May 19, 2011 at 7:38 pm

Since we started using the new Cascade our dishes all have a white film that is almost impossible to remove. Not impressed.

vickie tracy May 22, 2011 at 10:44 am

well scents they took phosphate out of cascade my dishes look like heck but i did try lemi shine and it works little exspensive but worth it is it only in utah or is phosphate out in all of cascade how about some coupons

Charlene Lord May 24, 2011 at 2:05 pm

My dishes – no matter what detergent I use – come out HORRIBLE. I wonder if the detergent makers are poisoning us as well! I have since resumed hand washing and my dishwasher just sits there doing nothing. After hand washing for over a month, the white streaks are still on my plastic utensils and colanders. There are also white streaks on my stainless pans. AWFUL! Who can we complain to?

Texas June 4, 2011 at 6:51 pm

Same problems here buy amazing to me all those who want to blame te government. They are the only thing that protect us from greedy corporations! Blame the
company that sold you the stuff! The government should be protecting us from our own greed that would destroy everything on the planet for a buck!

Uncledunc June 4, 2011 at 7:52 pm

Wake up folks! You’re HOT on Cascade’s butt when it’s the eco-Nazis that have taken us here: 1.6 gal toilets that need 2 or more flushes so they won’t back up; Washing machines that don’t use water and only pretend to wash clothes clean (hey, I’m alergic to the detergent residue that doesn’t rinse clean, even when I do a 2nd cycle in clear, HOT water); and now diswashers that try their best, but lack the muscle that Cascade diswashing detergent used to provide. Oh, having trouble reading this – it’s not your eyes getting old and weak it’s your damn halogen CFLs. Can we “clean house” and put all these clowns in their place? My bet is that Cascade disappears from the shelves almost as fast as Bon Vivant vichyssoise soup.

shirley pearson June 6, 2011 at 1:06 am

I thought it was my dishwasher until I came on here to complain about your coupons. Now I see it’s Cascade that’s making my life harder. I just bought a new box of Cascade and am taking it back.
In addition, I started to clip a coupon tonight for Cascade – then I realized it is mostly in Spanish. I and many others are rebelling against this forced insurgence of the Spanish language. This is America. I am paying you in American dollars. Wake up! I am no longer your customer.

Geraldine Barrick July 1, 2011 at 5:59 pm

Okay, now that we have all complained to this website about our dishes, etc., the film and being unable to come up with a sparkly clean glass, as promised on the box of my newly purchased Cascade, what do we do about it? The website does not provide an email address where we can complain or voice our grievances. How about a class action lawsuit? Is anyone willing to take this on? I am disgusted. No more Cascade for me either!!!!!

karen July 24, 2011 at 2:33 pm

MY DISHES LOOK TERRIBLE! SILVERWARE WORSE! PLASTIC WORSE!! I FILLED THE SINK AND PUT IN SOME CLR——CLEAN AGAIN! WILL NEVER USE THIS PRODUCT AGAIN.

Martha Whitley July 29, 2011 at 10:15 am

I am having difficulty finding Cascade in the white liquid. I can find it in the lemon but not the white. I use the white Cascade not only for my dishes but as a stain remover on white clothing and linens. It is a great stain remover.

Leslie Barker July 30, 2011 at 12:48 pm

Ok so maybe the cascade with dawn didn’t work but it’s not like cascade meant to do that. Take coke for example. They came out with NEW COKE and everyone hated it. So they went back to regular coke. But nobody gave up on them. Don’t give up on cascade for trying something new. Everybody makes mistakes. Cascade can too. We have used cascade for as long as i’ve been alive and we have never had any problems!! Keep buying cascade it still works!!

Willow August 3, 2011 at 11:57 pm

I want to cry in frustration. When you are a single working person, who works a full time job with some overtime, you do not have time to manually do the dishes. I have perhaps time one weekend day out of the two; the other day is for laundry and other errands. ONE day is not enough to do two sinks full of dishes manually that have piled up by then.

I cannot find a product without phosphates that works. I’ve tried tons of stuff, including Cascade. I’ve tried the Lemi Shine. I am about to give up and add TSP back to my detergent, which I am sure was not the solution environmentalists were looking for, but I don’t have extra money to go buying paper plates and paper cups just so I have something clean enough to eat off of.

And I don’t just mean a few spots, I mean stuck on food. And white film. And there is a dust of stuff all over my glasses, so now I can’t drink out of them without hand washing them all. It’s horrible, I tell you.

When you work sometimes 45 hours a week, as I mentioned earlier, and are a single woman with no kids or husband to make them do the dishes, you have no time to spend hours doing them all manually. Manually doing the dishes is not a solution for working people.

Chuck August 4, 2011 at 7:44 am

Try Finish. It works fine for me in Wisconsin, which is a phosphate-free state.

Wayne August 22, 2011 at 12:47 pm

That Finish crap doesn’t work either. Both Finish & Cascade leave plastic glasses white, silverware tarnished & dirty and even bowls come out dirty. All black utensils are now stained horribly.

Beverley Bishop September 24, 2011 at 6:16 pm

I have also used Cascade for years and loved it. I started using the new pkts and have noticed a film on my expensive English china. I also have had a few aluminum items ruined and my mixing bowls. My mother has had a bigger problem since it ruined her entire set of aluminum cookware. I guess there is no answer if the law requires no phosphates to be allowed in detergent!

Tonya October 9, 2011 at 8:37 pm

Guess I’ll add my complaint too. I am renting a corporate apartment so it’s fully furnished with all kitchen items. I had some samples of a Wal-Mart dishwashing tablet which worked great. However, when I ran out last week I made the huge mistake of buying Cascade, thinking it would be better to get a name brand item. Used it once and it has ruined everything that was in the wash. So, now I’ll probably have to pay to replace pans, glasses and utensils that belong to my Landlord. They are all covered in a white, chalky mess that I can’t get off. Plus, the bottoms of the pans are ruined–streaked beyond repair. Guess I’ll go back to the generic stuff that actually cleaned things and left them shiny. Cascade should discontinue their product if they can’t do better than this.

Ryan October 22, 2011 at 5:59 pm

I tried the Finish tabs. I have very heavy water here – it tastes like chalk. The Finish just wasn’t up to it. I now add TSP to every load and it works great!

I hope millions of fish die because of my TSP over usage. Screw you State government.

Dennis October 28, 2011 at 4:48 pm

I have been using these for years with no problem, with phosphates and without. Maybe it is your water or machines, but I have used this product with hard and soft water with no unwanted results.
Maybe Cascade produced a bad batch.

Janet Ma'ly October 29, 2011 at 11:20 am

I have had a brand new GE dishwasher for all of 8 days. It replaced an old Kitchen Aid machine that I was told dated probably back to the 1970′s! True I had to really rinse off all residue from the dishes before washing them in the old machine, but I am very disappointed with the way the dishes are coming out of the new one. In the new dishwasher some of the aluminum pans, etc. are coming out dingy and mottled with a black/gray staining. I have always used Cascade Complete or some other of the Cascade pouches with no problem in the old machine. I have also used the Sun & Earth no phosphate pouches, again with no problem. So is it my new machine and not the detergent at all? I was so excited about getting a new dishwasher finally. Now, not so much.

Cat November 4, 2011 at 2:10 pm

I am another that has ruined glasses, and ruined dishes from Cascade. I have had a dishwasher for 50 yrs, and have used Cascade, for most of those years. I have always had nice shiny dishes, until now. I found a bottle of another brand, a few days ago, that is not phosphate free. I have only used it 1 time, and it already shows some improvement in my glasses, although, I doubt, they will every be clear and shiny again, and if I have company coming, guess, I will have to buy new glasses, because, I sure cant set the table with the ones I have. I will never buy another bottle or any type of cascade again, but I will be out on a mission to buy a whole lot of other brand detergents, that are still on the shelves in my state that still do have phosphates.

Rachel November 13, 2011 at 7:04 am

We renovated our kitchen a little over two years ago and installed a brand new top of the line Bosch and kept our old Bosch. Within weeks we experienced the dreaded white film which stuck like cement on everything. Since we’d never had a problem with the old Bosch and it was happening with both the old and the new machines, I blamed it on the installer. Turns out the timing was the changeover to Cascade Complete’s new formula. After two repair visits, several runs through with vinegar and Dishwasher Magic and a set of new glasses, we switched to Finish power balls ( you can buy in I’ll at Costco) and Jet Dry. This works nicely for us, but in harder water areas you will probably need Finish *Quantum* power balls. You can buy these on line in bulk or at stores in hard water areas. Our stores are just starting to stock Quantum. I tried them and they are terrific, but I’m not sure I really need these.

Wilma November 17, 2011 at 4:07 pm

In July we purchased a new dishwasher and I note that all my aluminum pans have turned grey and dull – no shine. I too have been using Cascade Complete and will stop using it today.
Thinking the problem was with the dishwasher, we had a repairman come and there was nothing wrong with the washer – apparently only with the soap. Let’s get that Cascade Complete removed from the shelves.

james November 18, 2011 at 6:50 pm

I have a kitchenaid dishwasher. We’ve been using cascade for the last 2 years or so without issue. Suddenly over the past few weeks we have had some problems with white film on the glasses. We switched to cascade powder. The problem was worse. So we switched to cascade Liquid. Now its a complete disaster!! The glassware has sandpaper like deposits of while stuff. The black plastics have a very noticeable white film. The coffee cups are etched… I was researching possible problems with the dishwasher when I came across this article. I’m cleaning the dishwasher with CLR while I’m writing this. I’ll pick up some other detergent tomorrow that contains phosphate!! I’ll post an update if the problem is resolved.

Jo November 19, 2011 at 9:58 am

What freaks me out is the after taste of Cascade gel dishwashing liquid that’s left on my dishes and glasses after they’re ‘clean’ and dried. Even rinsing doesn’t remove the taste/smell. This ruins the taste of coffee and drinks and makes me feel anxious about the health risks from the residue.

Gail November 27, 2011 at 11:05 am

Folks… stumbled upon this site while researching TSP for another household project. I have a Maytag that is 10+ years old now (I think).

I’ve been using Cascade’s Shine Shield Formula (lemon scent, with Dawn). This is a liquid/gel, comes in a big jug, an the label says it is phosphate free. I have had no problems with white film or clouded glasses using this. So not all Cascade products are bad.

This has been an interesting thread, particularly with remarks about government pressure on household product manufacturers to eliminate phosphates. I’m using TSP to clean the woodwork in my house prior to priming and painting and I cannot believe how much gook I’m getting off that woodwork — no idea it was that dirty. While I like to do what I can to minimize my impact on the environment, I will use some of these frowned-upon products in moderation. Life is too short to spend all my time scrubbing something with white vinegar trying to get it clean.

Dan November 29, 2011 at 9:10 am

I’ll just add my two cents to this thread. I just wish I had found this thread before RUINING all of our plastic bowls and utensils with Cascade Complete. The glassware is a mess. Residue on everything. Cascade Complete should be renamed Cascade Complete Disaster.

This will probably cost $200 to replace all the ruined pieces. Very, very frustrating.

Brenda Hood November 29, 2011 at 9:43 am

Cascade Complete adheres to your cups and dishes (especially rubber spatulas and coffee cup liners) and will not rinse off. I dare say it has an agent that helps it soak in as I cannot get the taste and smell off of these items no matter how I scrub with hot water. From these items it then transfers into my mouth and my baking batters. Totally disgusting. Are we idiots that feel happy when soap is clearly in our midst? Does it make you feel germ free and clean? Why not just spoonfuls of it into your cereal each morning if its so good? –weeks of experience with this new stuff……

Denise McIntrye December 1, 2011 at 1:13 pm

WOW- I have had the exact SAME problems and when I returned the boxes to Costco I was told by the gal that she ‘hears’ (my complaint) “all the time”. I just switched to Cascade’s little packets with ‘dawn’ added hoping that would help, bow I am wondering as I am seeing horrible complaints on that here. I have learned 2 things recently: ONE: our repairman said that machines are being RUINED bu the phosphate-free dishwasher detergents and said to stop using them! But in Eastern Washing and northern Idaho we can’t even BUY the other stuff. TWO: I learned that using ONLY the ‘pots and Pans’ cycle and then running the first cycle with ONLY white vinegar and then the packet afterwards (since it is held in the dispenser until the second wash) seems to do OK. But I shouldn’t HAVE to wash my dishes after this. I have had so MANY things permanently RUINED from this!! If there is a class action suit I want in on it!

Ann December 5, 2011 at 7:01 pm

Here’s my latest trick: buy your good old fashioned phosphorous-full dishwashing detergent at restaurant supply stores. Congress exempted restaurants and other entities like schools and other public kitchens from their ban (gross filmy dishes are fine for our families, but we’d hate to offend restaurant patrons!). The congressional ban also exempted agriculture, which is ironic because fertilizer is a far bigger source of excess phosphorous in rivers and streams than household usage (guess who has a bigger lobby?!). Anyway, I bought a case and lo and behold, nice clean sparkly dishes and glasses. One cycle didn’t quite cut it, but after about a week everything looks like it used to and my dishwasher looks much cleaner too.

Ali December 22, 2011 at 9:09 pm

Yes, you thank our government and the EPA for all the problems mentioned. And it’s going to get worse if we don’t make a change.

Ali December 23, 2011 at 7:04 am

I have started washing my dishes by hand.

Jordan December 25, 2011 at 9:29 pm

Wow, I am speechless, after reading all of the comments. Our 1.5 year old GE profile dishwasher is not draining and there is a white lime baked all over the sump pump and especially from the automatic soap dispenser. Of course, we are using Cascade from Costco, and no surprise why this is happening. So by now everyone knows that we are totally screwed by Proctor and Gamble and this product. What are our options to get this fixed? I mean, I need a new dishwasher and I want Proctor and Gamble to pay for it!
Has anyone been able to recover their losses? Please share your story.
Proctor and Gamble, all I have to say is that you are Gambling with your customers.

Brian Harris December 26, 2011 at 12:07 am

Same problem here … ruined my maytag dishwasher, thanks P&G.

Phil January 4, 2012 at 7:00 pm

After hearing about a new dishwasher detergent with phosphate coming out, it finally is available. Bubble Bandit has 8.7% phosphate. We just bought a carton of it and can’t believe how fantastic this stuff is. We have hard water and after running the Bandit through the machine a few times we are back to spotless dishes again. It’s only available online and cheaper than buying the phosphate free crap if you include the price of the rinse agent you have to buy as well.

Ray January 4, 2012 at 9:03 pm

well i hate to give more bad news but i have the same problem as all the above with the whitish glass and silver that is ruined but it was from Palmolive ECO! the string that ties them together is the phosphate free!! funny thing is it says “cleans to a sparkling shine”… whatever!!!

Alexis January 7, 2012 at 1:02 am

I bought a new KitchenAid dishwasher a few months ago and decided to give Cascade another try. BIG MISTAKE….. Everything, and I do mean everything, looked terrible. My stainless flatware, dishes and aluminum pans looked like they were ruined. I finally decided to try and salvage the mess and got out the “NEVR-DULL” (not mispelled) and it quickly cleaned everything I used it on. Just get a wad from the can and polish the items. (It’s much quicker and easier than cleaning silver). Anyway, I’m trying the cheapest store brand I can find and staying with my Jet Dry.

Joyce January 12, 2012 at 3:54 pm

I have been having this problem for the past 2 months. I did two loads of empty and a cup of vinegar each time to clean out the dishwasher. Then switched to a liquid detergent. The problem was solved! Then when the liquid detergent was used up, I thought I’d give the Cascade one more chance. AGAIN – terrible white chalky residue. I hope I didn’t break my machine!!! UGH! Something needs to be done about this!

Unhappy and out of money January 17, 2012 at 9:30 pm

This stuff is awful. Do not buy…especially if you are happy with the stuff you own. I actually got into a fight with my roommate over whether or not I scrubbed the dishes before washing them. Ruined. Even after a new detergent and Lemishine could not get rid of the nasty chalk film.

Nancy January 19, 2012 at 12:03 pm

I think that white scarring on the dishes is from sand particles in the detergent. I now purchase commercial grade cascade and the problem went away. Unfortunately all of my glasses and plates are ruined.

Hugh C Young, Metuchen,NJ January 21, 2012 at 9:52 am

We have been using Cascade for years and really loved it until We bought the new Cascade Advanced powdered!

Dishes had heavy white film all over them. I thought it was the dishwasher!
Cleaned it with White Vinegar. Next load same thing!
Brought in a repairman who told me the dishwasher was fine and that all of the washing arms were spinning!
Ran CLR through it and the Kitchenaid sparkled!
Tried a new box of Cascade Advanced Powder and had the White Film again!
Wife tried the Cascade gel next and that seemed to be OK!
Tried the Cascade Packets and that had the same White Film as the Powder!
We need to get the government mandates out of our kitchen and go back to the old Cascade Powder Back!
Now we have to search for a dish washing detergent that works as well as the Old Cascade!
And maybe get rid of the EPA and save a ton of money and a lot of aggravation.
Maybe I can get my Old Cascade shipped down from Canada!

Lisa January 23, 2012 at 11:27 am

I have recently switched from Cascade to Diamond Brite Dishwasher detergent. My glassware and dishes are sparkling clean now, even the films that were left behind with cascade are gone now. No more gunk, film or anything. It uses the power of citric acid to cut through all of that and leave nothing behind but shiny clean dishes. Send me an email and I can help you order it. You use less per wash load so it lasts longer and saves you money.

Jane January 28, 2012 at 5:18 pm

Wow – I was so disappointed with the Cascade gel I was using that I bought the little packets with Dawn. They were even worse! I’m very, very picky what I put in the dishwasher – never, ever put aluminum in nor do I put in my good knives and pots never come out clean anyway so I hand wash those – still, my stainless steel flatware and measuring cups came out of the dishwasher with white film all over them. Yuck and I can’t get it off! I thought it was because I have a water softner and I was using too much detergent, then I found this site and I guess it’s not that. Folks, don’t run out and buy a water softner, that’s not the problem. My glasses all were etched and ugly so I tossed them and got plastic. Now I find out it’s the detergent. Grrrr – Never will I buy P&G products again. I will go out and buy a box of TSP and use 1/2 to 1 teaspoon per load and see how that works. My problem isn’t as bad as some of you because my dishwasher isn’t stainless steel inside but I assume some of the parts are affected by this stuff. Let me know if anyone starts a class action against P&G because I’ll sign up!

Nicole January 29, 2012 at 8:44 am

I have just spent HOURS rewashing and scrubbing all of my dishes, just because I bought a package of Cascade All In 1 . I ran out of my regular detergent (Finish, which is a liquid gel pack) and spent $14 on these Cascade All In 1s. Put it in dishwasher, waited until the cycle was done, and……..dishes are COVERED with WHITE FILM that I can’t even scrub off some of the aluminum utensils :S. Now I have a whole package of these left…..I don’t have the receipt…..and a dishwasher full of black dishes and utensils that are all now WHITE and filmy.

I will NEVER purchase Cascade again.

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